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Podcast Blog: Interview with Diane V. Capaldi, a.k.a. Paleo Boss Lady

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'V' is a mission-driven survivor who may be the most healed person with MS that has achieved that healing with diet, and lifestyle alone. As a NutriGold Ambassador, she receives free product for personal use, and a stipend to fuel her efforts (and her BAM VAN) as she travels coast-to-coast helping others realize their potential ... read more

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Introduction: “Welcome back to the second hour of The Forever Young Radio Show with host Cary Nosler, health journalist and fitness enthusiast, who is joined by health educator and executive producer, Kelly Cappasola. [music] And now, Forever Young.”

Kelly Cappasola: “Hello, everyone. So glad you could join us today on The Forever Young Radio Show. If by chance you’ve just stumbled across our show on the dial, for the past seventeen years our mission here has always been the same, and that’s to inform and educate every listener on healthier lifestyle options and good, quality-based information.”

Cary Nosler: “Indeed, and if you’d like to learn more about the show, well, we make it easy. You just visit the website. That’s ForeverYoungRadio.com. Listen to past shows, read some great articles, which we will be discussing today, several of them, and make sure that you visit the Weekly Highlight Page because you get a play-by-play of everything that we’ll be discussing today. And while you’re there, look for the little Facebook icon. Click it, and, boy, you will join us on our Facebook family.”

Kelly: “Yeah, we appreciate all the ‘likes’ you give us, all the visits, all the articles you check out on that page, and it’s a great way to stay connected. Now, Cary and I have a great show planned for you. We’re going to be talking to a very special guest who’s had a very interesting journey when it comes to health and all things health-related, life-related, and what she did to kind of make some changes in her life to really be able not only to help herself but is now helping others. So, make sure you stick around because there’s some great information to share with a very special guest, The Paleo Boss Lady. I’m Kelly Cappasola, and I’m being joined by Cary Nosler. Hey, Cary!”

Cary: “Good morning! Quite a change here finally, you know, I’m not seeing my breath as I talk to you, so things are changing weather-wise, thank goodness.”

Kelly: “That’s always good. We’re always looking forward to better weather across the country. I know a lot of people are looking to warm up and get a little bit more vitamin D. So, bring on the season so we can all complain in four months how hot it is, right?” [laugh]

Cary: “[laugh] Absolutely, that’s the human condition.”

Kelly: “Exactly, well everytime we say hello in the first segment of each hour, you share an article off ‘Cary’s Corner’. What do you have for our listeners today, Cary?”

Cary: “Well, I’m sure that you would like this one, I know you will, but it’s talking about why we should add more greens to our diet. And it said that a recent study published in the Journal of Neurology found that eating one to two servings of leafy greens a day improves your memory and your overall cognitive ability. Now, you know, greens can be all kinds of things. You can use salad greens, you can use cooking greens, all those kinds of things, but the bottom line is it’s part of a whole program of adding more plant-based foods to your diet. So, what they did at the Rush University Medical Center, they looked at 960 people. They were between 58 and 99-years-old, wow, and they looked at them for 4.7 years. They had a questionnaire whether they ate foods like spinach, different types of salad greens, kale, collards, and they found that those who consumed the most ate about 1.3 servings a day.

That is not a lot, my friends, 1.3 servings a day, and those who consumed the lowest ate about .1 servings a day meaning that maybe every once in a while they had a little bit of lettuce with their hamburger. The team followed up for ten years and found that the brains of people who ate salads the most, or greens, were the equivalent of being eleven years younger in age. That’s quite a trade off, I would say, for just what that small amount of plant-based material. So, getting eleven years and improving your memory at the same time. That’s the whole deal. Again though, this is a correlation. We’ve got to understand this, Kelly, because a lot of times you see headlines, correlation is not always causation, it’s just that there’s a connection that they're going to look at. So, the study doesn’t extend to, in this case, younger people, for example, but my goodness, eating more leafy greens? A very simple and effective way, according to the researcher, to protect against loss of memory and cognitive abilities. And guess what, Kelly? Even if it didn’t totally do everything it says it’s going to do, I mean, you haven't missed anything by eating more [laugh] plant material, vegetable material, and at the same time, even if it didn’t extend your life eleven years, you’re certainly going to feel better today, right?”

Kelly: “Oh yeah, we talk about the anti-inflammatory benefits of eating more dark, leafy greens, and listen, people are doing all these different things whether it’s intermittent fasting, whether it’s paleo, whether, you know, it’s some other new, you know, the keto diet. And one of the things they’re finding, especially with intermittent fasting, is people are getting very little greens and that is changing the pH in their bodies. We have a lot to share with you today, but again, go to ‘Cary’s Corner’ at ForeverYoungRadio.com and read the article, “How Much Salad You Should Eat to Keep Your Brain Eleven Years Younger.’ So, I’m Kelly Cappasola, he’s Cary Nosler, and we’ll be right back.”

(Music and Commercial Break)

Cary: “Howdy, my friends, and welcome to Forever Young. Cary Nosler here with Kelly Cappasola and a very, very interesting guest with a very, very interesting life to share with us today, Dianne Capaldi who’s also known as The Paleo Boss Lady, which we will also talk about as the show goes on, but we’re going to call her “V” today, which is the way she likes to be referred to, and we’ll ask her about that as well. But her life is all about being a boss. She was raised in a very dysfunctional family, unfortunately had an addicted mom, a dad who was a war hero who had untreated PTSD, and that was just kind of the life that she knew. At twenty-three in 1986, bad news. She had an inoperable brain tumor according to the docs and was going to be about six months before she thought that the end was going to be near. Well, turns out that that was a bad diagnosis.

She didn’t have that, but she was told she had multiple sclerosis, MS. That didn’t stop her. V was able to build technology companies, she became a millionaire by the age of 30, a powerhouse sales person. She was respected internationally, became a mom to an amazing daughter who I understand is having a birthday today, thirty-years-old, traveled the world, had a life that most people just dream about, or read about I should say, and if you looked at it from the outside, well, she was living the American dream even if she did have MS, but 2001, unfortunately, the note came due, so to speak. Became legally disabled due to the effects of MS on her body, but as you can imagine, because she’s sharing her story with us today, it didn't’ end. In fact, you might say it just began. Inspiration to many, many people around the world, and the Paleo Boss Lady is here today to share her amazing story. V, on behalf of Kelly and myself, you’ve led quite a life up to this point.”

V Capaldi: “I really have. Every time I hear my own life, I’m like, ‘Wow, wow,’ I’m exhausted hearing about myself. [laugh] Yeah, well thank you so much, and thank you so much for having me. You know, I feel very blessed, and when I hear you share the ‘About Me’ part, it is all very true. And I have to say that every step of my life has been a journey that I’ve embraced and, you know, none of it has been anything but joyful, as crazy as that sounds.”

Kelly: “The life you’ve lived so far is, generally, what maybe a fraction of the world has to deal with, and it was constant, constant, constant. And it seems like now you’ve really found your stride in the last decade, in the last coming years. And so, when your journey began, I’m sure it was very scary. I mean, first you think your life is over, then you like live as a prisoner, “Gosh, I’m going to perish. This is the end for me.” And then things just start getting better and better and better. So, how was it, V, that you took what you were given and somehow turned it around in a way? Tell us about the journey where it all kind of went down. Obviously, something in you in 2001, when you become legally disabled due to those effects of MS, something had to snap in you to make you want to change what was going on or your trajectory in life, to be who you are now, The Paleo Boss Lady.”

V: “Truly, I mean, when MS decided to really be in control of my day-to-day, it reflected in the loss of the bilateral use of both of my hands, and at that time I had no ability to feel the left side of my body. You know, if you can't use your hands it’s the highest form of disability you can have. You can’t really do much. I had full time help, I had people living with me, most of the hours of my day were spent getting therapies, physical therapies, acupuncture, therapeutic body work just to be able to use the lady’s room, feed myself, and dress myself. And life was unmanageable, and in America the sad truth is you have a disease that’s progressive, you know, you’re going to blow through every dollar you’ve ever saved. So, I was watching my life’s savings dwindle, and really most of it was medications and physical therapies, quality of life modalities, and at this time my daughter was getting ready to graduate from college. I was alone, I had about three years’ worth of finances left to be able to survive. I was becoming more and more disabled, and the decisions before me were homelessness, institutionalization or, to be honest, suicide was up there for me. And I decided to do what any rational adult would decide to do and I went to burning man, which is like a no-judgement event that happens in the desert in Nevada every year around Labor Day time, and the reason why I went to Burning Man was there’s no consumerism happening there.

You can’t buy or sell anything so you’re sort of removed from things that involve monetary value. At the time when I went to Burning Man, there was no cell signal or ability to use your phone or anything like that. And they also build a temple, and I went to burning man to pray, and I prayed and prayed and prayed. And by the fourth day, I realized that maybe my life was a little toxic, like maybe some of the choices I was making day-to-day was contributing to my outcome with MS, and before I was going to kill myself or put myself in an institution or any of those things, maybe I needed to just wake up. And I decided when I came back from Burning Man, I was going to lock myself in the house for a year and see what waking up really looked like because quite honestly, I didn’t even know if I had good choices as friends. At that point, my life was so unstable. I felt like maybe every choice I had ever made, other than the choice to be a mother, maybe wasn't a good choice living with the disease I was living with. So, I took that year to really soul-search, and that’s when the trajectory that I had with MS really started to take a turn towards that path that I’m on now, which is I manage every symptom from MS with diet and lifestyle exclusively. And I take no drugs, and I see no doctors, and as far as we know, I am the most healed person in the world with MS using only diet and lifestyle because we don’t know of anyone who’s reversed as much as I have and doesn’t take a single drug at all.”

Cary: “Yes, I was impressed with that as well, and as you said, statistically, MS is not a pretty picture, but you had one health practitioner who really, really gave you a lot of the insights that helped you kind of turn this thing around. Could you tell us about that?”

V: “Yeah, yeah, I’m assuming you’re referring to Dr. Terry Wahls?”

Cary: “Yes.”

V: “Okay, well, Dr. Terry Wahls was a gift that just plopped down on my lap from the heavens above. I had always been moving my body from the age of eighteen, so even in the face of MS and all that it had done to my body, I really had a very active role in movement. You know, was constantly yoga, swimming, walking, hiking, like whatever. I moved all the time. And I also had started to spend a lot of time working on my psyche and self-love and all of those things, and I tried many things regarding food. I was vegan. I was vegetarian. I did something called Pritikin. I did a diet that’s specific for MS called Swank. I did Atkins, and nothing changed my trajectory with MS. And then one day when I was in bed not doing well, at this time I couldn’t use my hands, I was using my voice to activate the computer, and I was saying to the computer, “Food. MS. Multiple sclerosis. Food,” and all the sudden this TedX came up from Dr. Terry Wahls called, “Minding your Mitochondria.”

And here’s this woman standing on the stage, walking, saying, showing a picture of her in a tilt-reclining wheelchair, and basically saying that she developed a modified form of paleo called, “The Wahls Protocol,” which involves including a combination of nine cups of fruits and vegetables, really six to nine cups of fruits and vegetables, that feeds your body at the cellular level. So, they are basically feeding your mitochondria, which is your power house of your cells, I mean, that’s what makes everything work. And she’s like, “I did this and now I ride my bike eighteen miles,” and she’s walking across the stage. And I just started doing exactly what she said. She had no book. She had nothing at that time to really teach us about her work. She had one book, but it wasn’t being printed anymore, and It was very cerebral, more written for healthcare professionals rather than a lay person. So, I just did what she said on the TedX, and today I still am a Wahls Warrior, that’s what we call ourselves. I was on the board of directors of Doctor Terry Wahls’ foundation, and she’s a friend and mentor. And I’m even healed more than her, which is kind of amazing, because she still does use medicinal interventions. But yeah, so the Wahls Protocol is the protocol that I follow which is not specific for people with MS, although Dr. Wahls has MS, so a lot of people with MS gravitate towards that. But I’ve seen people use the Wahls Protocol for everything from anxiety, depression, lupus, cancer, I mean, you name it. You know, just even to get healthy.”

Kelly: “I’m sure you could relate to her a lot more too because I think when you go in, sometimes you see a physician or some type of a doctor and your experiencing a situation, whether it be MS or something very serious of that nature, and they're telling you what to do. And you’re thinking, “Gosh you’ve never had these symptoms. You really don’t know what it’s like.” I think that the connection with that and that relation really does help people long term because not only can that person, as you counseling others, can relate to that happening to them. I think that gives it a little bit more legs and builds it a little bit more trust. So, when we come back from the break, we’re going to talk more about. You can visit our website, that’s ForeverYoungRadio.com. Click on our Weekly Highlight page and learn more about V, and also, check out her site PaleoBossLady.com. We’ll be right back after the break.”

Kelly: “I’m sure you could relate to her a lot more too because I think when you go in, sometimes you see a physician or some type of a doctor and your experiencing a situation, whether it be MS or something very serious of that nature, and they're telling you what to do. And you’re thinking, “Gosh you’ve never had these symptoms. You really don’t know what it’s like.” I think that the connection with that and that relation really does help people long term because not only can that person, as you counseling others, can relate to that happening to them. I think that gives it a little bit more legs and builds it a little bit more trust. So, when we come back from the break, we’re going to talk more about. You can visit our website, that’s ForeverYoungRadio.com. Click on our Weekly Highlight page and learn more about V, and also, check out her site PaleoBossLady.com. We’ll be right back after the break.”

(Commercial Break)

Cary: “Howdy, my friends. Cary Nosler here along with Kelly Cappasola. We’re talking with our special guest today, Diane Capaldi, a.k.a. The Paleo Boss Lady, about her incredible journey: the ability, again, to transform her life especially in the face of a very, very debilitating illness, multiple sclerosis. And I’m wondering, and in terms of effects of multiple sclerosis, was it the physical effects or, as you’ve described it, more of the mental effects that you had to deal with that you had to overcome in terms of continuing on with this incredible healing journey?”

V: “You know, that’s a great question because really MS is a vicious cycle. It causes, for a lot of us, one of the biggest symptoms is fatigue, and it also causes brain fog. So, I’ll give you an example. I still to this day, if I go to a movie and watch a movie and I leave the movie theater, I don’t have the ability to recall what I just saw. Although I was able to watch it and enjoy it, for some reason, long stories like a movie, anything that’s like 90 minutes or an hour or over an hour, I can’t recall so we have a lot of cognitive issues. And then depression and anxiety because we’re dealing with a disease that can take anything that it wants from us at any time, and it may never return, meaning I’ve been blind, you know, I’ve been unable to lift a limb, the thing that kills most of us with MS is choking. I was choking all the time, like, just choking on air. So, it really is both, and I think that that is a part that a lot of people don’t realize is the psychological part, and that was help for me dealing with the psychological part. So as any rational human being would do who has no use of their hands and can only use the computer by their voice and can’t drive or carry a book, I put myself back in college to get a masters in psychology so I could understand the psyche of living with disease.”

Kelly: “Because you doing that, V, has really helped you to be able to help others, and we’re going to talk about that. You know, you’re about to embark on a tour in the BAM van. Tell us a little bit about that and what you do going across different areas of the country helping people.”

V: “Well, I’m actually talking to you from the BAM van. As luck would have it, you know, I did build international companies, and I was fortunate enough to have, you know, millions of dollars in liquid assets in the bank. And I was on the board of The National MS Society, and I was very connected. And with all of that, MS took every dollar I had. It took all my marriages. It took everything from me, and, you know, by the grace of the powers to be, I was able to switch things around when my back was up against a wall, so much so that I could no longer look in the mirror anymore knowing what I know, that my healthcare is 100% accessible to everyone, without doing something about it. So, over two years ago, I decided to sell all my possessions and throw them, like I’m a minimalist, just throw the little bit of what I have into my little Fiat and drive all over the country, living in the home of anyone who asked me to live with them to share with them everything that I know and whatever I could do to help them. And that has now grown, two years later, to the community buying me a van that has been converted into an off-the-grid home complete with a kitchen and a bed and a bathroom and everything that I need so that I can now continue to tour, and I actually leave Monday for a five-year tour where I’ve committed to live in the van serving others. It’s all free to the community. And that’s what I do. I just drive around helping people.”

Cary: “And what you’re doing obviously hits upon a lot of the issues that people are thinking about today. The whole idea of the minimalist way of living, you know, from the shows you see on TV with small homes to people, like you mentioned as well, getting rid of your possessions. We do have a lot. Obviously we have more than we need. What was the story about people going in a store looking at clothes that they don’t need whatever that happened to be, but you’ve kind of understood that it’s not just getting by. You can flourish without all the things that we think we need as a consumerist society, and I think that’s really what people are looking at, not only for healing their body with whatever particular condition, but as you said, healing the spirit part of you that enjoys and understands just how to really live life in a way that helps you to grow.”

V: “It’s so true, and, you know, one of the things that you mentioned is that minimalism is becoming, you know, and the tiny house movement and things like that, and I really believe that that has aided my healing even more. You know, we call it biohacking today. Basically, I consider myself a biohacker so through diet and lifestyle consciousness, I, you know, hacked my life so that my body can perform optimally, both mentally and physically, so things like being a minimalist is a conscious choice because, you know, I used to open the closet and see the clothes that I wished fit me, the clothes that I hate that fit me because it means I’m not my healthiest, and then the clothes that kind of fit me, and, you know, it was never a pleasant experience. Now I open my closet and everything in there I love and everything fits me, and it makes me feel good about myself. So, just simple changes by being a minimalist, you know, like that has aided my healing so much because, you know, I don’t have those negative conversations with all of those possessions. I know I had several homes at one time, and I would always feel bad that I wasn’t spending time at one home that I was paying for, and you know, when you don’t have a lot, you just love everything you have and it makes life a lot easier to live, you know, and creates a space for true healing.”

Kelly: “Really giving up a lot of the things we don’t need in life for life, and that life that you have now, V, is so special, and the way you’re helping others is even more special. You’re not going out there because you want. You know, you and I had a really nice talk yesterday. In fact, I learned about you yesterday, and we had you on the show today. I mean, I can say in seventeen years I don’t think, Cary can, you know, back me up on that, and I don’t think we’ve ever done that. But I was so moved at how much you’re wanting to do, not only for people out there, but that you’re not doing it to make a buck. You’re doing it to spread the word on health and to be of service and to use this opportunity to really be like, ‘This is what I’ve been through. This is what’s helped me. Let me share what I’ve learned along the way.’ And one of the ways you do that, V, and what I love about you, among many other things, is that Cary and I are foodies, and some of those recipes you have on Paleo Boss Lady, which people can get and download the book and stuff like that, is remarkable. So, have you always been a foodie, or when did you get so awesome at making these remarkable meals?”

V: “Well, you know, so I’m an italian and when you’re Italian, food is the core of our family. I mean it’s really, you know, I still to this day love to wake up, you know, Sunday, I want to smell gravy. I want meatballs cooking. Like, the week starts with food, ends with food. Food is all that matters. So, my grandmother, my mom her mom, really raised us because my mother had, you know, addiction issues. And she was an amazing cook, had amazing garden, and, you know, I learned very young how to be in the kitchen and felt very comfortable in the kitchen. And then you become a mom, and now you’re cooking because you have a kid that’s hungry, and it wasn't’ really a whole heck of a lot of fun at that point, but we still did, like my daughter will still tell you, that she cooked with me. Like cooking has always been a passion. And then when I got conscious, I became afraid because I only knew one way to work in the kitchen, and my family wasn’t very supportive because Italians, you know, we’re making recipes that are generational. Like, you don’t change that stuff.

That’s like a sacrilege. So, it became my mission to start using food consciously and to keep, you know, the traditions of my family in tact. And just resulted in me writing cook books and rewriting family recipes and then being hired in Los Angeles to be a chef for corporations, and then that becoming, like, a huge business for me, although physically, I still have MS. I might manage my symptoms, but physically, chefing is physically exhausting, and I physically couldn’t do it although I’m a five-star rated chef and I was sought after. And it just came, because I think desire to, you know, have food continue to be such a big part of my life and to uphold traditions and to also take fear away from other people as I was learning how to navigate a kitchen through a conscious lense. I just always want to share with people what I’m doing in real time because it’s been really hard for me to figure this stuff out, and I just don’t want people to have a hard time because I know not everyone is as bull-headed as me.”

Kelly: “Right, not many people would go and fly to Italy and figure out where the recipes of your family came from and be able to mix them into a healthier version, you know what I mean? [laugh]”

V: “[laugh] I did do that.”

Kelly: “Like, that’s a pretty rare thing, but it’s pretty fantastic because here we now have all of these converted recipes you’re still sharing, again, with family. And I understand. Every Sunday, we have family dinner, and it’s always a huge pot of sauce, fifty sausages, a great salad, and everything like that. That’s just what our family does, and it’s tradition. And in our culture, you’re exactly right, it is all about food, ‘You fall off your bike. You want some eggplant parmesan. Hey, you had a bad day at school? I’m going to make you some manicotti.’ You know, so I mean, it’s one of those things that that’s just that’s how it’s always been, and when we come back from the break, we’re going to talk a lot more. But I had to put in that part about you going to Italy, and we can wrap that up when we come back. But for listeners, please go and check it out. Go to PaleoBossLady.com. If you're driving and you can’t write it down, please always remember to go to the Weekly Highlight page at ForeverYoungRadio.com. We keep that up there for about a week. You can link directly. You can learn more about our special guest, The Paleo Boss Lady, and what’s going on, the BAM Van Tour that’s going to be starting here on Monday. Lots of information to learn, so we’ll be right back after the break with our very special guest. Don’t touch that dial.”

(Music and Commercial Break)

V: “Actually, I do follow the Wahls Protocol, which I mentioned is a modified form of paleo. So, I only eat fruits and vegetables and protein. So, the protein can be meat, fish, you know, any source like that, any fruits and any vegetables. So, what’s missing from that is I eat no gluten, no grains, no dairy, no refined sugars, no legumes, and nothing processed. So, basically if it comes out of a jar, can, you know a box, I usually don’t eat it, and I follow a more ketogenic way of eating. And what is ketogenic? Most of us eating a traditional American diet use sugar for fuel. That’s what our body burns for fuel. When you are eating a ketogenic diet, you are consuming larger amounts of fat, and you’re burning fat for fuel. So, by not eating a lot of carbs and no refined sugars, I’m able to, and I do, consume large quantities of fat in my diet. Healthy fats. I eat ketogenic, and a day for me eating would be I only eat two meals a day, so I typically right now, I do what we call intermittent fasting.

So, that can be done many ways. I started my intermittent fasting journey by only eating twelve hours a day. So, what does that mean? If my last meal was at 7 p.m., I wouldn’t eat again until after 7 a.m. the next day. So, I sleep through most of it, you can kind of see why that would work. And I’ve grown to, now my intermittent fasting is, an eight-hour cycle, so I only eat for eight hours a day. So, if my breakfast is at 8:00 then I stop eating at 3:00, which most people that intermittent fast that way usually eat 12:00 to 8 p.m. Another thing that I’ve done is I biohack the sleep, so I follow my circadian rhythm. So, we’ve just had the time change here, so I’m going down to bed now at 8:00 at night, but typically in the winter time I go to bed at 6:00 and I wake up at 3 or 4 a.m.. I do yoga every single day, and I also treat MS with CBD oil. And I use CBD oil twice a day. I meditate every day. I laugh every day. I have joy, and I recall gratitude every day. I drink about half my bodyweight in water everyday. These are the typical things that, you know, and my meals, my two meals a day, would be what you would probably consider, they would look like two dinners. So, they would have, you know, let’s say a piece of steak, about one-third of the plate would be covered with leafy greens and then the other third of the plate would be covered with other vegetables, sulfur-rich vegetables or bright colors like beets or mushrooms, and things like that.”

Cary: “We could live with that, right, Kelly? [laugh]”

Kelly: “Yeah, I mean, I could live with that. I mean, even everything she said I loved, but then when she said half her bodyweight in water? [laugh] I love that. You know, I’m the hydration queen on this show, and it is so frustrating to me when listeners say, ‘It’s winter, why do I need to drink water?’ Okay, so it’s one of those things when we have that backup on the show. It means a lot. And you’re also a fan of supplements, and, hey, we heard that you love NutriGold as we do on the show, so it’s really exciting to know that you’re going to be working with them a little bit and trying some of their supplements, and, gosh, when you look at a line like that, it’s very clean and concise. So, when you’re taking supplements throughout the day, is there like a holy grail of a couple that you can’t live without?”

V: “Yeah, there actually are, and NutriGold has changed my life. And I’m so grateful for such a great company like that. It’s funny, me and Chad, really had this conversation, from Nutrigold, just the other day. For me, a multivitamin, because as much as I really try and get my six to nine cups of fruits and vegetables in a day, there are times when it just doesn’t work. Like, yesterday, I’ve just been having a little bit of stress trying to finish the BAM van, and I wasn’t able to get all my nine cups in. So, I love the fact that I was able to take a multi, which pretty much covers me. We talked yesterday, again, omega. I don’t really eat enough fish to get my omega-3s, and to take a nice, good fish oil. And the last thing for me is a probiotic because, gut health. I have to always keep my probiotic levels proper because my gut flora. It took me 48 months to get it healthy. So, I would say a probiotic, a multivitamin, and a good fish oil.”

Cary: “Kelly and I are no stranger to the whole idea of intermittent fasting, and truthfully, I’ve been doing it maybe now for six years or so, and I do like a seven to eight hour eating window, but I also do weight training, which I do before I even eat. So, you know, the whole idea of intermittent fasting by being able to utilize my body’s stored energy in the proper way, you know, has been very, very positive for me. And as you know, it’s not just intermittent fasting, it’s all aspects of fasting that seem to be gaining a lot of scientific traction these days.”

V: “It really is, and again, when people ask me, because just to give the listeners an idea, I couldn’t drive for many years. So, five years ago, I could drive, well it’s actually six years now, six years ago I could drive not at all, and then I started being able to drive just five miles a week. And then it went to five miles a day, but then it leaped from five miles a day to hundreds of miles in a day, and I credit that with intermittent fasting.”

Kelly: “That’s big because so many people are looking at it now and they're hearing the benefits and not understanding how to do, you know, what’s going to be right for them because there could be blood sugar related issues, there could be all kinds of stuff. So, I’m sure before you started intermittent fasting, you did some research on your own, which we always encourage our listeners to do. Now, we’re quickly running out of time, V, so I want to give you the floor because I know you’re going to have to start your five-year tour, tell us a little bit about how listeners can get involved in that, how they can find out if you’re coming to a city near them. Tell us more about that, V.”

V: “Well, you can check out everything that you need to know about me at PaleoBossLady.com, and if you’re interested in partaking in the Takin it to the Streets Tour, all you have to do is reach out to me. You can find me on all social media @PaleoBossLady, or you can also email me at v@PaleoBossLady.com. I do have an event page on my website it says ‘See Me, Hear Me,” so you can see there are some public events coming up. Well actually, Paleo F(x) will be the first public event which will be at the end of this month in Austin, and the BAM van will actually on display. People can walk through it, talk to me, check out the van, and hear all about the tour, and I am here to answer any questions people have. I take pride. So, if you have a question about anything, feel free to just, you know, hit me up on social media, and I promise you’ll hear back from me typically within 24 hours.”

Kelly: “One last question before we say goodbye to you. The BAM van, what does ‘BAM’ stand for?”

V: “Believe in a Miracle. I consider myself a walking miracle, and everything I do I just hope to lead by example that everyone can live in their miracle whatever that is.”

Kelly: “Wow, well, you’re a blessing in our life and many others, V. We appreciate you taking the time of joining us today. Again listeners, PaleoBossLady.com. Spend a little bit of time on that website, learn more about how you can learn about recipes and cooking. Learn more about this wonderful tour that V is embarking on. So many resources on that page, a wonderful blog, lots of great information for you to check out as a listener. V, we wish you the best and safe travels. And we hope that you’ll come back and let us know how things are going over the next five years.”

V: “Absolutely, thank you so much for having me. This has been amazing. And thank you for all the work that you do. I spent a bit of time last night listening to a thing you did on intermittent fasting and so many things, and you guys are amazing. Keep doing what you’re doing.”

Cary: “Thank you.”

Kelly: “That means a lot. We really appreciate it, and thank you so much for that.”

V: “Thank you so much, everyone, and have a great rest of your day. I really appreciate this.”

Kelly: “Cary, such a great show I love when we can just bring on an informative guest like that who’s really walked the walk and talked the talk and experienced the things in life that so many people are struggling with and need motivation and need some sense of support. So, gosh, that was a wonderful interview with the Paleo Boss Lady, V.”

Cary: “Well, that’s one of the differences. We talk about science all the time, but the bottom line, too, is that the issues that have propelled health to the forefront have been stories like that, you know, especially when I started out on my journey on this whole thing, there were people that were very inspirational to me that told a great story and really got me involved in what’s going on. So, I think that fills a needed void, you know. What happens when you change your life? What happens when you have a different perspective on life, and how does that contribute to who you are and the health that you want to get? So, it’s not only good but it’s, I think, necessary for people in general to have that kind of inspiration in their life.”

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